that refers to the mueller piece of this, the southern district of new york, the justice department of new york, the eastern district of virginia could drop what they want and what they have at any time? >> exactly. so i think the way to think about it is much more like the internet now, this mueller investigation, with multiple different nodes and each one having a certain amount of autonomy, that's particularly true for the state prosecutors, which the president and the attorney general can't stop, and congress which is a coordinate branch of government. when you get to the southern district of new york or the eastern district of virginia, those are federal prosecutors, and it is possible to envision donald trump or attorney general barr saying, oh, no, you can't investigate any further. don't touch my man. >> the folks watching this network know that the news hit at the end of nicolle wallace's broadcast and at the start of chuck todd's "meet the press" daily. they happened to be seated side by side in our washington