russians who still remain unindicted, donald trump jr., jared kushner, ivanka trump, felix saider. we know some of the people on this list appeared, carter page. there are people out there who we haven't seen touched by this mueller probe. does that make sense to you? >> it does make sense. here is why, what malcolm is discussing. prosecutors have a limited role to play in government. bob mueller has been a large part of our dreams or nightmares. prosecution is a blunt instrument. it's designed only to determine if someone voc very specific criminal laws. for instance, conspiracy, did you agree on an objective and perform it. maybe these folks did that. maybe it's something that while still very harmful to our national security, something that needs to be addressed on capitol hill and through other mechanisms isn't criminal. we don't know the answer. we won't until we see the content of mueller's report. >> that's if we see it.