speak with you. can you return the call? now i thought it was derch. we have a senate-confirmed attorney general, jeff sessions, to whom the call would have been expected to be made if it was an innocuous call. there was no heads up about it, no indication of what the topic would be. you started to worry about things that were going on in the world. there have been calls from various sectors to investigate things. i, obviously, had jurisdiction, that office had jurisdiction to various aspects of donald trump's life, his business, organization, trump foundation, various properties, et cetera. for him to be calling now with my not knowing what it was about when there are these protocols in place that say you cannot discuss an enforcement matter, the white house can't discuss it with anyone other than the attorney general or the deputy attorney general, i didn't like it. >> were you concerned he could have an elicit motive regarding investigations that touched on his world? >> i was, either in that call -- >> you were? >> -- or some future call but i