voters, many of them are having a love affair with beto because he reminds them of barack obama. he's sort of the shiny new object. the "vanity fair" cover, the rollout, right? but at the same time, there cannot be a double standard. and i think this is where the media and pundits and all of us have to be very careful about the line that we tell here. do people like kirsten gillibrand and senator warren feel like they have to offer more specific policy ideas, because they are female candidates? and they have more to prove? i don't necessarily think that is -- i hope that's not the case, but i think we have to be very careful that we don't fall in the same trap we fell into in 2015 and 2016, where you know, we want -- we expected more out of some of the female candidates. well, obviously, hillary was the only one, but even some of the down-ballot candidates. now there are sometimes higher expectations of women that i think we tend to place. and so i think we have to be very, very careful in how we sort of nuance this. >> so on this sort of moment of introspection, michael, both of you, we saw this, as you point out in 2016, "the new york times" tracks stories about