it was strategic. it's to position himself in a good way for a pardon. they are throwing a wrinkle into that. the state charges, if convicted would be pardon proof. it throws a wrinkle into it. paul manafort has been litigating much of his case from the position of trying to get a pardon from the very beginning. now, he's in a harder situation, trying to face down the state charges. >> you watched or read the transcriptions on both of the sentencings in virginia and washington, d.c. it was two different paul manaforts with what he said and how he feels. >> it's paul manafort, right? >> lest we forget. >> what to do to come up with the optimal outcome. how do we know that? he's a lobbyist. he worked in ukraine and in the u.s. he knows how the system works. he's going to do whatever gets