could be even worse than mueller. we're hearing directly, for the first time from a witness, vo involved in the sdny probe. keith davidson. we were discussing how extense imp his communica ive his communication has been. >> about 1500 pages i gave to sdny upon their request. i will make that available to house judiciary committee. i sat down with the sdny prosecutors. they were about the most comp tent attorneys i met. for a time period of three separate meetings of about 20 hours in total. >> 20 hours. 1500 pages of material. that's a key piece of information from a witness in the probe. that was his first time since he spoke to them. davidson is a key figure because he negotiated both of those ndas. we just don't know who else is talking. we know michael cohen after being indicted there was