enthusiasm on the democratic side. >> let's go to the other candidates too. he's going to go for that bit of pressure for joe biden. mayor pete i think is the one that suffers the most in terms of name recognition but a similar kind of style i think he has to beto o'rourke. >> he has the ability to dwarf some of the other candidates. he also put enough of a scare in texas. president trump had to campaign and hold a huge rally for ted cruz in the final weeks of that election. also let's remember just a few weeks ago the president was in el paso, held a rally to push for the immigration plan and to call for the border wall, for the money for the border wall and so on and beto held a duelling rally and drew a similar crowd there and clearly his presence, he's going to highlight the role of immigration, the wall, the national emergency is going to play in the 2020 race. >> a couple other names to tell