minimum wage, free tuition at public colleges. the renewal project to rebuild the country's infrastructure. there are progressive ideas. is it enough, do you think, for biden to pass the kind of primary progressive litmus test that seems to be out there? >> yeah. there's certainly a balancing act that the vice president and his team are trying to walk. as he's said in the past, i'll put my progressive credentials up against anyone. he's said he's no bernie sanders populi populist, and as it was said yesterday, he's not a democratic socialist. his pitch is very much centered on the middle class, the types of voters that donald trump successfully won over in 2016 that put him in the white house thanks to states like michigan, wiscons wisconsin, and pennsylvania. that's very much the appeal that the vice president is planning to make. they believe that he has a deep reservoir of support across the party. also among african americans, a key demographic we've seen in polling. they view him as a loyal foot