who just sat back and, you know, got a big scissors and had ribbon cuttings. he was somebody who was actually at the side in many cases of the critical issues facing barack obama. >> absolutely and he wasn't questioned bigger people on that. he was with the president. i understand what he brings to the table. i think he would be a democrat that a lot of moderate republicans would support. however, i just wonder how he does against other democrats because, again, not being challenged and being on stage with ten other people taking shots at you -- >> and my crack team watching him right now said he is getting fired up. we have run out of time. look at him there. >> now he is not low energy anymore. but you could make an argument, chris, that he should say, you know, he'll only go for one term. that would put him in a different place. >> run, joe, run, they're chanting. >> run, joe, run! run, joe, run!