special correspondent for "vanity fair" and an msnbc contributor. he's out with a new piece tonight. "why roger ailes' former right hand is leaving the west wing" and msnbc legal analyst maya wiley. she served as chief legal adviser to new york city mayor bill de blasio. welcome to all of you. thank you for being with us. gabe, you've been particularly busy because you and i talked earlier today. >> yeah. >> when this news first broke. you've done a lot of research since then. >> yeah. >> the question when somebody leaves the white house and joins the campaign is that, is that a good thing, is it a bad thing, is it good for them? what is this about? >> well, clearly this is not a good move for bill shine. you don't leave the communications director job in the white house, the highest profile perch in communications in american politics, to go become a, quote, senior adviser to the trump campaign. this is clearly a soft landing for him. as i reported today in "vanity fair," this was a relationship that had really hit the skids over the last several months. donald trump was not happy with his communications department. he brought in bill shine to plug