contrition. at least michael cohen cooperate fully with robert mueller and then testified before congress and kind of admitted to getting off on the wrong path, right? and now the scales are from his eyes. he's no longer wowed and dazzled by donald trump and fame and fortune. you know, he's doing this after he got caught, of course, but at least telling us a story of a man who sees things differently and now just wants to help. manafort couldn't bring himself to do that, and i was thinking, as you and ken were going over the statement, which is, is this the sort of statement that one would make if one still is hoping for a pardon from donald trump? >> do you -- what do you read in that? >> because he's not admitting he did anything wrong. he's not saying i'm going to do everything i can to make this right and i will go back and now start cooperating with robert mueller, which he's always free to do. maybe too late, but he still can try. >> let me read those statements for viewers who are joining us -- >> what do you -- okay. >> for the points you're make, david. for viewers joining us, 6:22