>> unless he's pardoned. prison gives a sense of finality to the paul manafort story. if you look at what robert mueller's team has been pressing in court in some of these unsealed transcripts, it's clear that their interest in paul manafort extends beyond bank fraud, tax fraud, failing to register under the foreign agents registration act, that there are these questions about his relationship to his long time aide and translator konstan kilimnick who they've alleged is an asset for russian intelligence. so there are these meetings, there's polling data he passed to kilimnick, there's discussions of a peace plan. if you read the full extent of the court documents, there are many, many other questions about the ways in which manafort leveraged his time at the helm of the trump campaign in order to get himself out of this desperate financial situation he found himself in. >> the former deputy in the campaign beyond that august