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i think, you know, we still see folks needing to get out of more rural areas to an urban environment to find lgbtq acceptance remember but they will go st. louis or norfolk, virginia or salt lake city rather than feeling the need to get to the ocean. >> samantha, one thing that strikes me about the long march of gay rights in this country is how it was slow and all of a sudden extremely fast. all of a sudden gay marriage reached huge acceptance, was approved by the supreme court, and part of it, i think, was people learning that their neighbors were gay, having personal relationships with people who were queer, and i wonder if you think that as queer people are living in places that are not centers of liberalism as they spread to places like dayton or stay in those places that they were from, if that's going to be the leading cultural edge of political change in some of these places and towns and states that are not historically

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