>> they have already been long divorced. but this was just, hey, this is my ex-wife, could you look into that. >> that's a crazy thing. >> now, i don't know if trump actually did follow through on that. as jane mayer reported, trump also vented about we should get the justice department to stop the cnn merger. nothing was followed up on that. the fact that these conversations and these mutual relationships are happening is something that crosses a line from just access journalism to whether there is an abuse of power. >> right. and the conversations happening which we know are documented between murdoch. let me just say one more thing, angelo. i will say having watched fox news in 2003 and the run up to the iraq war, that was state tv then too. it would have made north korean programmers blush if you look at what they were doing to sell the war at that point. >> that's true. the one thing that makes that a little different is a lot of places sort of fell into the trap of bringing on military -- >> broadcasting propaganda. >> unfortunately in that case that was more of a collective