>> in cohen's hearing, he discussed his last conversation with the president. let's listen to what he said. >> when was the last communication with president trump or someone acting on his behalf? >> i don't have the specific date, but it was a while ago. >> and what did he or his agent communicate to you? >> unfortunately, this topic is actually something that's being investigated right now by the southern district of new york. >> is there any other wrongdoing or illegal act that you are aware of regarding donald trump that we haven't yet discussed today? >> yes. and again, those are part of the investigation that's currently being looked at by the southern district of new york. >> what are the chances, katie, that could be related to pardon talks? >> listen, i'm sure that the word pardon has come up several times during a conversation between donald trump and michael cohen, but was it brought up in the context of michael cohen getting a pardon, or did it involve other players that were involved in the trump sphere? the important takeaway from that