kind of pandora's box it opened. not only in terms of witnesses, but also potential crimes. very few people focused on those financial crimes, which are within the southern district of new york, as you said before, a lot of prosecutorial ears opened wide. >> yeah. >> and eyes, frankly, at some of what cohen said about those checks. you mentioned them earlier and you showed them. they were written and discussed in the oval office. in the oval office. after trump became president. so i think the timing is very important, as barbara and john mentioned, two great lawyers, that the potential for conspiracy there involves literally the seat of government, and i think all of the cohen testimony is very consequential in that way. >> yeah, it seemed like a significant thing, even in a time where people are somewhat