questions raised by democrats. so this opens the door for more and more investigation on the part of house democrats. we don't know what mueller is already looking into, and frankly, i don't think this should be treated matter of factually. this is major. the president is a criminal. that's all there is to it. if he's writing checks from behind that oval office desk outside of the auspices -- >> he's not a convicted criminal. he's not. >> he's not convicted but he's still a criminal. you have to be convicted to be considered a criminal? >> i think -- i think it's tough to make the argument the president of the united states is a criminal. we know the president is a liar. but to say that the president is a criminal -- >> well, if you are paying off someone to benefit your campaign outside of federal election commission filings, that's not an act of criminality? >> what do you think? >> it would be if it's proven in