failure, no other way to put it. it's a total failure, and it should not have happened, right, because the work should have been done in advance . you don't send leer e-- you dot send leaders in like this. it's not clear where we go from here. >> you wrote a piece on human rights. we were talking about a remarkable exchange between david nakimura, and president trump about otto warmbier, who died after being sent back to the united states. the president committed to them that he was going to hold them in his heart and mind as he dealt with the north korea issue. he said something extraordinary here. let's take a listen of what he had to say about otto warmbier in response to the question. >> we spent pretty much all day with kim jong-un who is, he is quite a guy and quite a character. and i think our relationship is