it be a caucus or election day, the democratic playing field in some of these states screws more liberal. you may be going into a state you may not win in a general election, but you want to get there early and lay down the marker and lock up delegates. >> it's apples and oranges. people who vote in primaries are different than the old ideals of the general electorate. look, bernie sanders and every democra democrat, we have to build a blue wall. trump has not expanded his coalition. the marquette poll is at 39. you do not want to be going into reelection with the numbers like that. >> what is the best path. is it good for democrats to say i have a jobs message and they can appeal to that blue wall that got cracked when donald trump won in 2016, but i will go after the apathetic voters and