him saying you didn't get a job offer in d.c. is that why you are turning against the president and reminding everybody he did lie to congress and they will say you can't believe this guy. >> you bring up the president's taxes and he may be able to testify that the president was under an audit. who cares? he could have released anyway. the white house saying the president isn't worried about what cohen has to say. is there reason to believe otherwise? >> absolutely. we have evidence going back for a while here that trump really didn't want michael cohen to be testifying. he has been putting that out there in his tweets, been trying to make him look unreliable, like a lir, like he has all of these family problems. i think we absolutely can believe he is very worried about this. to the point about the children, i think it sounds nice i want to protect my family. what we are talking about here is the trump foundation. some of the stuff i'm really interested in for the hearing i hope is that people will talk