trump is his children. once michael cohen starts sharing details that may actually implicate him, you will see him truly become unhinged. >> is there a sense that michael cohen will go there? and do you anticipate if he does learning anything new from his testimonies? >> that's a great question. as far as the president's children in particular, i don't know. i'm certainly looking forward to hearing what he has to say in public about what his conversations with president trump himself or his proxys prior to his lying to congress about the trump tower moscow deal negotiations that were going on throughout 2016. remember, he lied to congress originally and said that was all over in january of 2016 and that wasn't true. and there was that flurry after buzz feed reported that he had been told by trump to lie to congress and the special counsel's office said that is not what he told us at least. so there is still a lot of confusion over that and whether the president may end up being