discussion guide, if you will, for the discussions that will happen over the next couple of days. and one of those ideas is an idea put forth by the u.s. bishops and cardinal daniel dinardo outlining what his thoughts are. this idea of bishops policing bishops seems almost hollow at this point in time. >> i don't think it's hollow particularly if it's blended with a review board or some of the layity who take their place. >> reporter: what the cardinal would like to see is a lay review board for bishops which is what happens now. what is not in this paper which has some survivors very upset, there is no language about zero toleran tolerance. that is basically one strike and you're out when it comes to the priesthood. the other thing that's in here is publicly naming abusive priests.