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and remember, i was at the first vice president pence's speech at this conference in 2017. back then there was cautious optimism that there were grown-ups around. they were going take care of this transatlantic alliance. that was absent at this meeting. and they've kind of moved on. and i think that's really scary for american national security interests, because we have real challengers out there. russia first and foremost, china for the rest of the century. we cannot go it alone in dealing with these kinds of competitors. that's the first thing. the second thing, however, yes. the vice president biden's speech got tremendous applause. by the way, speaker pelosi was in the room too. when she stood up to wave, everybody thunderous applause for her. and there was a good news message too. there were, as you already said, 50 members of congress there, democrats, republicans from the senate, from the u.s. congress. and i heard lots of positive

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