able to accumulate as much in needed income or wealth. and then we've seen these companies that have gone stratospheric enrich the founders in ways we've not seen since the gilded age where someone like jeff bezos -- and i'm not calling him out. he created jams, an enormous -- amazon, an enormous company, and because of the stock price he's worth $165 billion. we've seen more wealth concentrated in fewer hands. but at the bottom, we've seen not as many keep pace with the cost of living over time. >> speaking of bezos and amazon, they say they are, quote, pretty firm on their decision to pull out of their deal with new york city. why did amazon bail? are they losing anything by walking away? >> i don't know if amazon is. i think new york city is. the queens, long island city and queens would have benefited from the 25,000 jobs that would have been created over 15 years that would have averaged $150,000 in annual pay. i think the opposition from local politicians may have been