person. >> well, that's because he would rather have a puppet as president. >> no puppet. no puppet. >> it's pretty clear -- >> you're the puppet. >> it's pretty clear you won't admit -- >> no, you're the president. >> the russians have engaged in cyber attacks against the united states of america. that you encouraged espionage against our people. that you are willing to spout the putin line, sign up for his wish list. break up nato, do whatever he wants to do. >> malcolm, many pundits say trump was not taken seriously enough as a political phenomenon in 2016. was hillary clinton's substantive point there not taken seriously enough at the time? >> absolutely. i mean, every word of what she said has proven to be correct. we have had an espionage investigation going on for the last almost three years. there's been a counterintelligence investigation which now encompasses the president