across the border. but these are folks that are in a totally different category than the,hombres. they want to come over and make their case. it's very easy for president trump to say, they're all illegal immigrants, all illegals, but the devil is in the details and they're all asylum seekers. >> at this moment, beto o'rourke is having a counterrally in el paso, where they're putting an anti-wall demonstration together. it's a city that's been extremely opposed on the whole to donald trump's immigration agenda, to his rhetoric about the border. that's true of elected officials there i've spoken, the current member of congress, beto o'rourke, who used to represent, the mayor, and so forth. thank you both, really appreciate it. joining me now, former democratic senator from missouri, claire mccaskill. she is now an nbc news and msnbc political analyst. it's great to have you here. okay. first question is, given what happened when you were in the united states senate with the daca deal, which was that the