time and agreed to meet uncle john in person to hand over some money. >> do you know where the thousand oaks mall's at? >> thousand oaks mall. >> it's off of lynn road. >> lynn? >> yes, off the 101. >> reporter: lynn road, the irony was apparently lost on frank jaramillo. it was mid-morning, late november. detective nelson was worried. would he show up? >> you sit in the parking lot by yourself and you kind of go over -- and sure, your heart races a little bit. i mean, it's crunch time and you feel like everybody's kind of depending on you to get this done. you want it to go well. >> reporter: so the idea is you're reeling them in like a fisherman? >> yep. >> reporter: but there are times when you don't know what's going to happen? >> right. you know? could have a fray in the line. have it break. had that happen a few times. >> reporter: but not this time. there was frank in a brand new lexus suv. >> frank?