here. harry, executive privilege, does that mean we're getting nothing? >> short answer is yes. sorry about that. if he's going to step a baby step away from invoking it and this is what the chess match was about yesterday and he's essentially pinned nadler. anything that could be executive privilege, my conversations with trump, i won't answer. that's not the same as a formal invocation, but i think they've -- >> in terms of getting the answers, what does it matter if it's right next to a formal or it is a formal? is he answering or not? >> no. and the difference is for court terms. if he says, executive privilege, they say, here's your subpoena. he says, see you in court. and maybe a few years pass. what they're going to want now is as much information as they can and there will be -- he will want to keep this dull, talk