the house committee will be holding hearings on family separation. that's an important first hearing on family separation. as you mentioned, there will be other hearings, but this one on thursday, i think, is critical that the members of congress really press hhs and say, why isn't it worth it? why can't you find these kids? why in america are we not going to try to find these children? >> i believe you're going to be testifying on thursday at that hearing. >> i will be. i will be. >> you'll be back in court on february 21st. what does success look like to you? >> i think success looks like the judge saying, look, these children were separated under the same basic practice. they're part of this case, and now let's figure out a plan for finding these children, and if there's going to be that long a period where we can't find them, then let's at least start prioritizing. the kids that were sent to foster care, let's make them the first priority and move through it. but by no means can we just throw up our hands and say, we're not going to look for these children, that's it. yeah.