17 different people trying to work together to build a wall and you're not seeing any cooperation from the president. the longer this goes on, the more reentrenched i think both sides are becoming and democrats put forward a bill yesterday that doesn't include a wall yet again. i think the president is looking for an easy out here. maybe what we're seeing with this placing the blame on paul ryan is a convenient out. it's someone who isn't like by the ann koulters of the world, who the president has consistently trashed over the past two years. it's not necessarily accurate but the president's thinking it's rational. >> well, the think is that, mark, this is divot number one