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i grew up in the projection in brooklyn, new york. i thought that was the american dream. >> i am joined by an entrepreneur capitalist, he is the host of a podcast pitch fork economics and as mentioned, you are a very rich guy. you have been open about that? >> yes. exactly. >> you say there is something wrong with what howard schultz is doing? what is it? >> absolutely. i love the conversation you have been having. i just want to make one point is that, you know, it's easy to call what aoc is doing as far lefty, but nothing could be further from the truth. when you had advocate for economic policies that benefit the broad majority of citizens, that's true. centerrism. what howard schultz represents the centerism he represents is trickle down economics, tax cuts for rich people. deregulation for powerful people, wage suppression for everyone else without the overt racism. he is not center ririscentrist.

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