think about individual 1 in the sentencing document from michael cohen in the southern district of new york turned out to be donald trump who directed, and, again, that's the language from the federal prosecutors, a hush money scheme. do you see that there's a person known to them, but not us yet, who possibly directed these actions? >> i do. i don't think -- and by the way, i'll happily defer to chuck who knows mueller far more closely than i do, but mueller is not given to creating intrigue, drama, to teasing us and setting a dramatic stage. if he puts in there that a senior official was directed to do something, if he makes references to this throughout various charging documents, he knows there's a person directing this. he's not -- this isn't conjecture and he likely knows who that is. >> chuck rosenberg, your name has been evoked. let me ask you to answer that