>> and it's easy to stick together when the message is as simple at pelosi made it it was open the government first, talk about the details later. she started to use the term hostage a lot and made it so that people were thinking about the idea that this shutdown was taking federal workers and their paychecks hostage. that's something really easy to rally people around and her members largely agreed with her on this. i do think it will be interesting if republicans can capture the fact that there are some actual real divisions within democrats about what happens next, what does border security mean, how far do you go in terms of negotiating with republicans? that is the space republicans i've talked to say they want to kind of expand on. but right now democrats are feeling really emboldened. they feel they have the nation on their side and it would be hard to break them apart at this point. >> kelsey, while i have you, let's talk about congress.