roger was a natural person to gravitate to. he's a koob. he put out a book saying bill clinton was tied to a series of murders. he's a conspiracy theorist who hangs out with alex jones and yet he was considered a vrbs ip, a vip at the republican convention for trump. >> where did these two meet? at college mixer. i'm kidding because he's an underworld figure and trump seems to know a few underworld figures. >> they go back 40 years. even knew fred trump before he knew donald trump. and they really do have a bond that's developed over these years and you see the loyalty -- >> what do you mean? >> i don't know where they met but they go way back and raunler's been telling me how they go way back. he's not going to turn on the president. >> what's he doing sitting next