it seemed like they listened to donald trump on that stage and then went to look. again, this timing is all becoming very questionable. it feels like what robert mueller's team is doing is laying the groundwork to come out later with a superseding indictment that talks directly and alleges directly collusion as opposed to lying and obstruction and tampering with witnesses. >> and katy, at the white house right now, kristen welker is standing by, where they're beginning to set up the rose garden for some sort of public appearance. do we know what's going on yet? >> reporter: we don't know what's going on, andrea, we're trying to work our sources to get to the bottom of it. are they setting up the equipment for the president or perhaps some other event that's going to take place? will he perhaps have something to say today about the shutdown? andrea, let me toss it back to you, it looks like roger stone is coming out. >> exactly, we were expecting roger stone.