members in the coast guard, letting them know he finds it unacceptable they're having to rely on food pantries and donations, telling them that their leadership has their back and, yeah, they're going to continue to be unpaid week after week after week. this is the first time that u.s. coast guard service members have ever gone without pay through any of the shutdowns we've been through as a country. this one appears to be indefinite. this is now week five. joining us now is senator sherrod brown. senator, it's really good to have you here. thanks for coming in. >> thank you, rachel. >> i am -- i feel like the more i talk to people who have clear eyes and can see the horizon on the shutdown thing, the more i am very worried that it might have no end, that there might not be a way to end it, nor any intention to end it on the part of this administration or congressional republicans. >> i think that, i mean, it's clear that mitch mcconnell's got to do his job. donald trump -- he thrives on this. we all know if he gets the $5