we don't know the developer, we don't know the site, we don't know the -- anything about it. ultimately it was michael cohen essentially trying to get a deal done. he wasn't exactly a deal guy, didn't bring too many to the table, so i don't think anyone took it too seriously. >> discussed the status and progwrsz the moscow oproject with trump and he briefed family members about the project. and we know trump sr signed a letter of intent for the mauvo deal. is a possible that cohen was out there as a lone rider, cut canning these deals who's being cut by the trumps? >> i feel it hard to believe he would have went out on a limb when he was such a part of the syndicate at that time. when i was director of cia there were a lot of very, very curious interactions between u.s.