>> yeah. >> and eventually deciding he had to say something. >> well, i think in a sense, rarely saying anything and then coming out and disputing part of the story but not definitively knocking the story down. i think the most difficult line to maintain in washington right now is the line, "we need to wait and see what robert mueller does before we exercise our own independent oversight authority." the house of representatives has every right, and in a sense a duty, to allow the public to understand what's happening here. they have to respect what's going on in robert mueller's investigation. of course, they don't want to ruin or, you know, harm the investigation. but there is no -- there's no logical reason why hearings couldn't be held. and under the constitution, that is what impeachment is. it isn't throwing donald trump out of office. it's allowing hearings where the public can start to understand the narrative of what was done, potentially to our election, to elect donald trump and what he did while in office. >> yeah, and as we're going to discuss later in the show,