. president trump offering congressional democrats what he calls a humanitarian deal on the border under the ongoing government shutdown. this happened just a couple hours ago, but top democrats rejected the president's proposal even before he took to the podium. nbc's kelly o'donnell joins us from the white house. walk us through what we heard. >> reporter: one of the that happened is after the president had his public remarks and laid out his proposal, a group of reporters we were able to talk with the vice president and jared kushner, secretary nielsen of homeland security, and the acting chief of staff, mick mulvaney to get a sense of not only what's in the proposal but what comes next. one of the things that jared kushner told us is they recognize there were people who said where does the president really stand, what will he get behind and support. they claim the vice president saying they took ideas from