but the smart folks up here are basically out of ideas for how to shift this thing without some external factor changing. >> i want to read something here quickly. this is from hogan gidley, when asked about how this thing could end, the spokesperson raised the possibility is that super bowl may be delayed because of the shutdown. he says it's quite telling there are certain designated events that require mass protection, one of those is the super bowl. the question becomes if that's what it's going to take to get democrats to come to the table, the potential that the super bowl may have to be delayed. are you hearing that's a possibility, jill, that the super bowl could suffer as a result of the shutdown? >> reporter: i was surprised to hear hogan say that in that interview with fox news. i mean, technically, it does have the same special security