advisors are concerned he's not internalizing the effects of the shutdown. some senior officials have been aiming to make clear this isn't just a message anymore. he's playing with live ammunition, meaning the econam. former dnc chair. editor and chief of "the bullwork." and an msnbc contributor. we all know nancy pelosi. toughest speaker forever i think. she is now going to the president of the united states and saying okay. game of chicken. you're not invited right now. at least not formally invited yet to give your state of the union. >> you could say she's playing hardball. because donald trump thinks that this is -- that nancy pelosi is going to buckle or her troops are going to dessert her, she's wrong.