terms such as people are storming across our -- come into our country and he had a pretty strong, i would say an anti-immigrant fervor. about him. that pretty much comports with this administration. >> he also seemed to be advocate of the wall. >> yes. that's because all the immigrants are storming through our southern border. so we have to have a wall. that's why at some point i asked whether he was going to rely upon facts as a basis for his positions in decision making. and i used as an example something that department of justice did with regard to the voter fraud in north carolina. where they wanted all of the voting information submitted, millions of voter cards or whatever so that we could fairt out the people who are not supposed to vote and that is a