security concern. the times tonight also reports getting some access to the testimony of the top lawyer at the fbi at the time. fbi general counsel james baker. and then, from mr. baker's house testimony, quote, not only would it be an issue of obstructing an investigation, but the obstruction itself would hurt our ability to figure out what the russians had done. and that is what would be a threat to national security, mr. baker said. in his testimony, portions of which were read to "the new york times." wow. what a story. joining us now is "new york times" reporter michael schmidt, part of a three-person team breaking this story tonight. michael, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> give us a little bit of the background on the story. how long have you been working up to it? >> well, in many ways we have been working on it for a year and a half, because since mueller was appointed, since comey was fired, we have been trying to understand what the fbi and the justice department have been examining on the