break room one day. this requires levels of approval, legal review, going to the department of justice and having them look at the evidence. with my experience sitting in that lead seat, i'm going to need to see even more than the public antics of the president and some irrational conduct. i'll need to see some intercepts, human source reporting in order for me to say i've got a reasonable suspicion he's working for another team. >> two more questions to you. that being how long does an investigation like this go on potentially? would it be correct in surmising it might be over or it's going on. the word wittingly versus unwittingly. how important is that as you look at this investigation, frank? >> that may have been the whole purpose of opening such an investigation to try and figure out is he acting like this seemingly in the pocket of the