was tossing paper towels like basketballs into the crowd. north carolina, the hurricane, the music. the boat. what we see now is more of the same. he's struggled to connect to regular people. we heard these stories. he keeps claiming that federal workers are telling him that you should stay with the course. the wall's important. don't do this. yet the white house has not been able to provide any concrete examples of the instances. the afl-cio, mr. trump came on the "morning joe" the other day and said he and his staff -- he talked to thousands, he and his staff talked to thousands of the workers. none of them said what happened. this is a case where he's doing this through a political lens and not able to sort of connect people on a human level, so the stories we just saw of suffering, people having trouble making ends meet, at least to this point, they're not really having any impact in the oval office. >> we want to thank jonathan lemere, we want to thank shannon petty piece, and sometime we
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