civil rights moment, it's a moral test that the republican party is tragically failing. everybody knows that donald trump isn't telling the truth, and everybody pretends -- not everybody, but almost everybody pretends that he is telling the truth. it's what donald trump sort of forces you to choose between your own dignity and some sort of political allegiance. and part of this is it makes a rational discussion about border security impossible because as the congressman said it's all circus theater. i think there's a good argument to be made for more border security. i think there's a rational argument to be made for a wall. but none of that sort of can be discussed and talked about with this cacophony of complete untruth. >> and congressman swalwell, let's consider for a moment what would happen if the president did declare this emergency. i believe the courts would stop it as quickly as they stopped