of this government shutdown so far as it goes on? >> well, these federal workers all over the country have a good number of them in my own city and in this region. he doesn't caribbeans about them. he doesn't each talk about them very much because he recognizes that that is he calls them democrats. that's a small number of them. that's why i'm looking now to the spreading of the economy, to the spreading of the sectors, because the federal workers won't do it and haven't done it and couldn't possibly do it by themselves. but as you see this begin to have its effect on the economy itself, and that's what you're beginning to see, the president is going to be forced. and i agree with my other colleagues to use what is already up there to say look, i won. we're back to normal. >> we know that the president has -- how do i say this? not necessarily told the truth when it comes to the border wall and when it comes to immigration. he has put a lot of numbers out there that have been disproven,