disrespectful to donald trump? >> here's -- part of the dynamic here, i was on capitol hill yesterday talking about it, this is palpable, there's this sense among a beltway crowd and analyst, and among the house leadership, and among republicans that, like, impeachment will backfire, it's overreach and it's bad and that will benefit donald trump in some boomerang fashion, is that weird conventional wisdom that's descended over washington? >> i think the problem that a lot of people have is that they kind of live with the past experience of impeachment with bill clinton, and i think this is a night and day experience. so obviously donald trump has done a lot of things that if some other president did there would be an impeachment process started already. on the other hand, i do think that the american people look at impeachment as through the lens of a criminal inquiry. and that's not -- that may not be the right way to look at it