time. the white house has backed off of doing a concrete solid wall, which i don't think it would be useful and the border patrol folks said is the wrong way to do the design. there is a difference. in san diego where they changed the fencing from the old style to the new style, when we visited the border patrol folks the old style fencing they had ten penetrations a day. the new style, they're having one a month. there is a dramatic difference if you change the style of fencing. it should be fencing, not a solid wall. >> all right, senator langford i'm going to leave it there. republican from oklahoma, thanks very much. appreciate you coming on. let me turn to a senator from the other side of the aisle, who was listening in on this interview. joining me is maryland senator chris van hollen. happy new year to you. was i incorrect in how i described, if you could support what senator langford described. there's bipartisan support for what he described on the border versus what president trump describes for the border?