disincentivized to budge because they are not going to fund a wall. nancy pelosi was very clear on this. i think we are farther away than we have been up and to this point, and you know, we can have working groups and stuff. it's up to donald trump. if donald trump does not commit to a deal, it's not going to happen. you can have as many meetings as you want. >> michael, donald trump always wants his cake and eat it too, can he le open the government and keep his wall fight going? >> i don't know. he is pursuing a base strategy in all this, but his own party has some divisions. i think democrats are united on this issue. >> trump unites them. >> exactly. >> we're not even talking about nancy pelosi and all that trouble she was going to have getting elected speaker thanks to donald trump. >> you have republican senators who realize they don't want republican governance to look like it doesn't work, which is what's happening in this circumstance, so there are divisions on his side. i just am not sure he's all that concerned about the party. i think he's making one